In a chat with conservative podcaster Shawn Ryan, California Governor Gavin Newsom opened up about a hot-button issue: transgender participation in school sports. While he acknowledges how contentious this topic can be, Newsom doesn't see opposing transgender kids in sports as intrinsically "homophobic." He also shared his view that transgender girls shouldn't necessarily be labeled as girls. Naturally, these comments have stirred up a lot across political arenas and among everyday folks.
Looking back at policy changes
Reflecting on his time as San Francisco's mayor back in 2004, Newsom recalled authorizing same-sex marriages—a move that didn't sit well with his own party. "They practically crushed me," he remembered, noting how his actions sparked outrage among Democrats. Despite this backlash, he stands by his decision, convinced it brought positive change on a human scale.
Fast forward, he sees a difference between those past battles over marriage equality and today's debates over transgender rights in sports. "The issue now isn't just about celebrating rights but about potentially denying others theirs," he pointed out. Marriage equality, he argues, expanded rights without taking anything away but letting transgender athletes compete in sports raises tough questions about fairness.
The emotional side Of sports
Newsom shared a story from a state track meet two years ago that shaped his thoughts on this issue. A transgender athlete and a cisgender competitor both ended up quitting their teams after a media frenzy. "That just wasn't right," he lamented, highlighting how complex these situations are.
He also mentioned that some who support transgender policies have reached out with concerns about fairness in sports. "Disagreeing with sports policies doesn't make you a bigot or homophobic," he asserted, urging his party reevaluate its stance.
The bigger political picture
Even though Newsom backs anti-discrimination laws, he sees hurdles ahead, like dwindling support around marriage equality. He points out that opponents are adept at "weaponizing" transgender issues, which he says has been damaging. "They've been really effective, and it stings," Newsom admitted.
When Ryan asked if LGBTQ+ advocacy has overstepped, Newsom acknowledged that increased visibility might feel overwhelming.
Talking about gender-affirming care
The conversation then veered toward gender-affirming care. While Newsom isn't entirely sure about all aspects, he recognized its life-saving benefits. "Having a nine-year-old myself, I get it, it matters," he shared, showing his nuanced take.
Ryan pressed him on early transitions, and Newsom emphasized keeping an open mind, stressing ongoing dialogue around such intricate issues.
Legal and political hurdles
California has been at The Forefront, allowing transgender girls in school sports since 2013. Even with federal pressures, California stands its ground, facing legal challenges from The Department Of Justice.
Newsom called this law a "challenge" during The Interview and talked about working with federal leaders on balancing rights and fairness. "He said, 'You got abortion, I got this,'" Newsom recalled, illustrating political complexities.
As these debates rage on, Newsom's insights underscore broader societal conversations around transgender rights and inclusion.
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